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  The Society is gonna let you off your homework kids!

  by nicolaou in

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  from the current (uk) edition of 'our kingdom ministry'.

  take a close look at paragraph 4. am i the only one who can see the old pattern of the 1980's re-emerging?

  i had thought that the watchtower had begun to take a more reasonable approach to the secular education of it's members children yet here they are again in 2004 willing to jeopardise the education these young people receive for the sake of indoctrination and control.. .

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  it's bloody offensive
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  The discontent at another's harm

  by A Paduan in

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  the wtbts makes claim that "apostates" are not willing to just leave the org without voicing their opinions to others, and be good little ex-jws, just as the org (again) would like them to be - putting it down to "evil intent" or "controlled by satan".

  one thing that they continually not mention in the same context is their own mandatory requirement to get more of the same "followers" - to act, live, be where and when they want them to be, treat their children and other family how they prescribe, including bogus medical advice, etc.

  - a complete imposition into their lives - financial and all - all based upon a ruse - pretence and lies, even whether or not they believe it themselves.

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  it's ironic at how much joy they get out of non JW's coming to harm. Totally unchristian
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  What does MATURITY mean to you?

  by gumby in

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  in another thread, the subject came up concerning dubs and their maturity level.

  the question was posed as to what members on this board would consider the word maturity to mean.

  so....what does maturity mean to you?.

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  Knowing that I don't have all the answers and being wise enough to be cool with that
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  Whats a Real family Really like and how does one get there?

  by Celtic in

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  they say patience is a good thing, but what happens when your patience starts to run out?.

  what's it like having a real real family, a family where different members look out for one another and offer support when the going gets tough?.

  i feel somewhat ashamed of myself for posting this question.

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  there is no such thing as a typical family, every family has it's skeletons and I am yet to find a family anywhere which did not have it's share of dysfunctionality, and as Abaddon rightly points out it can make you very withdrawn and aloof when escaping the borg.

  I lost all of my family and friends when i left, and was all alone at 18. I hadn't made many friends at school as I was picked on for being a JW and when I left the JW's I was truly cast adrift. It affected me in a similar way to Abaddon and I became very self sufficient, it's only over the last 5 years or so I have managed to make any real friends apart from my partner as I find it very difficult to rely on other people. The JW experience, especially in an abusive home can be very negative and have a great deal of psychological effect.
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  Political Discussions

  by Heatmiser in

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  i have been reading the previous posts today and have noticed some pretty heated depates on politcs with, rightfully so, locked threads.. all of us on this board come from many different countries with different forms of goverments and benifits.

  everybody thinks that they have the best and are willing to defend that view.

  i would hate to see any of us lose "friendships" on this forum over debates that have no winners.. i enjoy posts from everybody that is involved in these discussions and would hate to loose the insights they provide on every other issue besides politics.

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  actually it was guesst 77 who put that question, but I disagree with you anyway.

  Do you remember the guy with the shopping bags in Tianamen square Beijing China? One person can make all the difference. The monks in Southern Vietnam who set fire to themselves to protest the US invasion moved public opinion, the photographer who got the picture of the Southern vietnamese policeman shooting a protestor in the head, Lek Valedsa in Poland who started a democratic movement. All these are people who have changed history and stood for what they believe in. One person can change the world, all you need is the courage to stand for your convictions when your moment comes.
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  Spirit sending pictures to earth from mars

  by JH in

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  http://www.cnn.com/2004/tech/space/01/04/mars.rovers/index.html

  it took 7 months to reach mars.

  they will try to find signs of life on mars.

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  maybe you could have a look for Beagle2 while you're up there

  U2K, you are either a troll or a moron, presumably both.
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  Political Discussions

  by Heatmiser in

  1. social
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  i have been reading the previous posts today and have noticed some pretty heated depates on politcs with, rightfully so, locked threads.. all of us on this board come from many different countries with different forms of goverments and benifits.

  everybody thinks that they have the best and are willing to defend that view.

  i would hate to see any of us lose "friendships" on this forum over debates that have no winners.. i enjoy posts from everybody that is involved in these discussions and would hate to loose the insights they provide on every other issue besides politics.

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  very true, I noticed during your last presidential election that there was very little to differentiate the political parties other than the level of paranoia they were trying to instil into the electorate. At the end of the day the politicians will always act in a self serving way and be bound to big business, at the moment the Republicans seem a little more blatant about it.
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  Political Discussions

  by Heatmiser in

  1. social
  2. current

  i have been reading the previous posts today and have noticed some pretty heated depates on politcs with, rightfully so, locked threads.. all of us on this board come from many different countries with different forms of goverments and benifits.

  everybody thinks that they have the best and are willing to defend that view.

  i would hate to see any of us lose "friendships" on this forum over debates that have no winners.. i enjoy posts from everybody that is involved in these discussions and would hate to loose the insights they provide on every other issue besides politics.

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  I find it quite interesting to look at politics a little more dispassionately. I will first point out that I am a very liberal lefty pot smoker who dislikes Bush and his cronies and the undemocratic way he is ruling the USA and invading whoever he feels like.

  Having said that I could reel out just as much left wing political dogma and propeganda as I could right wing. Personally I formed my political views the same way as I formed my religious views - by looking at the fruit each one bears and by looking at the people pushing each side of the agenda. If you look at the people who support liberalism you tend to find the educated middle class and you tend to see a semblance of socialism - everyone paying towards the good of all where you see things like universal access to health care free at the point of delivery, which is one of the things that Hilary Clinton pushed hard to move the USA towards. It has it's downside as it tends to mean higher taxes and more regulation, but then you get better services for everyone not just for the wealthy.

  On the other hand when you look at those pushing a more conservative agenda you find the rich and upper classes in full support as they want to pay less tax along with the more poorly educated and lower classes as they can be more easily manipulated by the mass media using fear. You tend to see less provision of services by the central authorities and theoretically more money left in the pockets of the tax payers. The obvious down side of this is that it polarizes the wealth in the hands of the rich and those with access to capital, the upside is that it promotes entrepreneurs who have access to capital as they are subject to less regulation and can make more money and create more jobs.

  We had a very right wing government in the 80's which lead to a more selfish society and a very 'me first' attitude. They destroyed the power of the unions and then went on to destroy all of our primary industries - mining went and we now import coal from south America, Steel production went and we now import most of our steel and the raw materials for the steel that we do make, ship building went to the far east, farming has been strangled by big business due to deregulation of the milk industry, fishing has been pretty much ended here due to the lax regulations of the 80's leading to over fishing and the reduction of fish stocks. We have what is regarded as the fourth strongest economy in the world, this is almost solely based on service industries. You cannot run a country where 2/3 of the population do not produce anything and work in Walmart or MacDonalds.

  The economic realities of the world today have changed a great deal and we now see that many of our service jobs are moving to low wage economies such as China and India. I'm a software engineer and I have seen a great deal of the work I do in Telecoms moving out to Bangalore where engineers earn a third of my pay. I work for a company which has merged with a Dutch rival and we have had to make alot of people redundant over the last two years. Most of the burden of 'downsizing' has fallen on the UK staff as we are cheaper to fire and have less legal protection than the Dutch, on the downside the Dutch are less likely to recieve inward investment when economic times are good due to their higer levels of regulation.

  There are pro's and cons to both side of the divide but I find it confusing that there should be so much support for conservatism in the states. I was under the impression that you were in favour of freedom rather than heavy handed government intrusion such as the 'patriot' act. America puzzles me, I met some people from Oregon recently when I was on holiday in Mexico and they were as cool as anything. They told me that they had voted to legalise pot use, allow euthanasia and had ensured that the Roe V Wade precedent could not be undermined, I also met some Americans who were proud to come from a state that executed a retarded kid for murder.
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  What does property cost where you live?

  by ball. in

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  i just saw on tv that a 3 bedroom detached property with swimming pool in florida costs the exact same as my 2 bedroom apartment on the coast in england.

  i was totally suprised by this.

  as there are quite a few american posters here, i am curious as to housing costs in other areas.

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  It varies alot here in the UK. I live in Bristol, SW England where my 3 bed 1930's house - about 650 sq feet with a 90 foot garden and garage, is worth about £140k and I bought it for £90k 2 years ago. We live right beside the air field where concorde was built which isn't the nicest part of Bristol, new houses a mile away are worth about 20k more despite being a third of the size less with no garden. We looked at a new 2 bed apartment in a small town about 30 miles closer to London recently and it was priced at £145k with no garden at all and as Celtic said, houses in the more remote areas have gone through the roof. My family are from Cornwall and we couldn't afford to move back home now. The house prices are at least as high as where we live, if not higher in the nicer towns by the sea, but wages are half the rate they are in our city.
  

  We are planning to move to Australia soon, prices are similar to cheaper places in the USA, we found a 1000 sq ft house with 4 bedrooms and 2 1/2 baths for less than £70k in Perth in Western Australia where we want to live.
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  Step One

  by Peppermint in

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  2. friends

  just registered today after many months of being a silent spectator, hope to tell you a bit about myself in the days/weeks to come, but not just yet.

  one step at a time as they say.

  i have been helped so much by what i have read here, at first i expected to find bitter and twisted rantings, not so, you all seem very normal.

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  Satans little helper

  Welcome Peppermint. I'm pretty new here although I have lurked for a couple of years.

  Where in England are you? I'm in Bristol.